trance , still ?

Clearly the original poster of this thread has something to hide. She or he, is using a new tribe account and seems to be quite capable of maneuvering them selves around tribe, enough to write a thread. This person is not new to community in my opinion. I question why or what do you have to hide? I understand that you would like to hide you identity for the sake of criticism; leaving no paper trail. However I find it cowardly. Have fun hiding in the dark with you opinions. It seems to me that you may have some insecurity eschews to work out. Remember these are community of free speakers who share there opinions for the betterment of every one no matter how negative or positive the idea is. If you feel that upset about the gathering. Let yourself be know with words. But besides that party on, you will find your nich in the woods, don’t let one party that did not match your personality get you down. Up in the middle land of California there are many swami retreats that are very cool check them out. Remember “There are many markets to buy your eggs from.”

And about the owl, what's the matter, never ate poultry before?

Seriously, it's sad, but the owl probably died more from the heat than the music. (a combination of course, but it WAS a record hot day, many animals die in extreme weather, especially the young.) Unless your going to become a Luddite ascetic you shouldn't critisize unintentional environmental impacts. Your use of a computer (not to mention cars, house, toilet, almost everything in post-industrial socciety) has probably contributed to the cause of more death, even human death, than us bringing a sound system out to the desert. People who think we should stop partying because of the death of one animal I think must have not given much thought to the impact of modern living in general.

Although, this is a tired subject, there are those who are going to pretend like they are signigicantly lessening thier environmental impact by not coming to parties, and those who don't. See ya.

exactly ta.

lol ... roflmfao trance still? ; )

I find it funny that the original poster associated trance with candy kids. Are you associating just this event with Psy-Trance and candy kids or all trance events with candy kids?

I have been going to indoor and outdoor trance events for years and being into music as much as I have been (since I was around 4)- I have found that Psy-Trance (and especially GOA) is on a higher plateau of someone being mature. I don't want to stereotype certain genres with certain types of people on whether or not they're mature themselves... but, part me does do that. The reason is I see the majority of the people ARE much more maturer than those that go to "tekhouse, breaks" events. Tech-House and Breaks belong in a damn club and I see no spirituality when it comes to those genres. That's why it's hard for me TO stereotype and NOT TO stereotype others... because really I CAN'T. I can't tell if someone is experiencing something "spiritual" for them and the music their listening to.

But, here's a more simplified explanation:

I just know that I've seen 21 and 22 year-olds at "raves" or other events (i.e. tekhouse, breaks) and they're rolling on E and to me that has no spirituality between what is supposed to be between one's self and one's higher power. Yet- I see 15 or 18 year-olds go out to an outdoor gathering and when talking to them, I can tell that they're about 100% more mature than the older people at the other kind of parties. I have always spoke of this and I always will. In my humble belief... I do believe there are at least 2 different kinds of scenes (if not more) in electronic music: 1) The "Rave" scene and 2) The "Gathering" scene. I belong to the second one.

So, I may have said something that "appears" to be a contradiction-- but, not really. I just don't like the idea when someone says that trance events are for candy-kids, (or associates them with candy kids, etc.) because of the type of events I (myself) go to and the reasons WHY I go to the event (spiritual reasons- not just a party for me all the time). I don't expect anyone to believe (or follow) what I believe in... and that's okay by me (I'm alright with that). I just avoid bad company (bad vibey feelings) and I love really, REALLY good/nice people... people who respect others, their beliefs, their life, their struggles, their goals, etc. and I can see that a lot of people I've hung out with (and hang out with) are definitely that... IN the TRANCE scene (not the "clubby" trance scene).

tedwar, previous request for you,,,

One party, one person's experience. Things change, scenes ebb and flow, the vibe moves. Try to pin it down and it slithers away. Cause and effect, the beat goes on. Are you going to produce something better? If so, we're all waiting...

yes yes yes to the funkified afro beats.. miam miam (yummy)