Please refrain from posting FMG and outdoor gathering related topics in this tribe, and instead post them in the Moontribe Collective tribe:
tribes.tribe.net/moontribecollective
This tribe was created to be about the moon. The original moderator happened to have named it "The Moon Tribe", which caused some confusion because it bared a similarity to Moontribe. There are a lot of people on this tribe who have no interest in desert gatherings , although they don't participate much anymore because all the Moontribe people accidentally usurped the tribe's purpose and topic.
I'm going to start deleting all posts and photos related to gatherings and ask the people who post them to instead post in the Moontribe Collective tribe. (Although I don't think I can bring myself to delete the "trance, still?" thread)
tribes.tribe.net/moontribecollective
This tribe was created to be about the moon. The original moderator happened to have named it "The Moon Tribe", which caused some confusion because it bared a similarity to Moontribe. There are a lot of people on this tribe who have no interest in desert gatherings , although they don't participate much anymore because all the Moontribe people accidentally usurped the tribe's purpose and topic.
I'm going to start deleting all posts and photos related to gatherings and ask the people who post them to instead post in the Moontribe Collective tribe. (Although I don't think I can bring myself to delete the "trance, still?" thread)
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Thu, March 6, 2008 - 8:28 PMCan you move the pics and threads to the moontribe tribe? Is that even possible? It would be a shame to loose some of those gems. Just an idea. -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Fri, March 7, 2008 - 1:08 PMYeah, I really don't see the point of deleting posts and pics in here... What would the purpose be in that? -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Mon, March 10, 2008 - 9:58 PMWell, the logic behind it is that being a tribe intended to be about the moon, FMG pictures are not really related to the topic of the tribe. Same goes for threads about FMGs. -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Tue, March 11, 2008 - 10:10 AMUmm, who ever said it was a tribe only about the moon? I'd guess it was a tribe designed to be about what the topic directly implies, have you ever heard anything to the contrary? I've never even seen the previous moderator post in here, so it's pretty hard to make the case that it wasn't ever intended to be about anything other than what the title implies, correct?
I just think it's funny that up until the change, it has been about moontribe, FMG pictures have been the main topic of discussion for the last few years, and threads about FMGs have been the main topic of discussion. -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Tue, March 11, 2008 - 11:01 AMYes, but Jesse, what we've tried to address by changing the moderator to Brentt is that from time to time, people post details here about our events, the kind of details we wouldn't want showing up in an indexed Google search (to which all public tribes are subject). The previous moderator, who has nothing to do with Moontribe, suddenly became unresponsive to our requests to have such information posts removed.
In addition, I think you will find there are loads of members of this tribe who don't have anything to do with Moontribe, who came here out of a love for the moon, and may be discouraged from coming back if they think this tribe is more about an electronic dance music-based community based out of Los Angeles.
Besides, since we have our own tribe now, why is it so offensive to you to simply take your discussion over there instead?
Yes, until the change it has been a lot about Moontribe, but why does that mean it must continue to be when we have our own spot right next door? If Brentt continues with the pruning of posts & pictures here, so that there is nothing any longer referencing events organized by Moontribe or its members, this tribe can be returned to its rightful purpose and welcome back those users who, frankly, may not have a whit of interest in the party culture.
I'm sorry but I just don't see the jusitification for why this needs to continue to be an unofficial repository for Moontribe-related talk when we have a spot set up just for that already. -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Tue, March 11, 2008 - 11:06 AMPardon me, but upon re-reading my post once more I'd like to retract the use of the word "offensive". It's a bit strong. Let's say I rephrase that sentence to
Besides, since we have our own tribe now, why is it so important to you to continue having Moontribe-community-related discussions here?
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Tue, March 11, 2008 - 11:08 AMBecause I hate change?
And much like you, I don't see why we needed a new place to talk about moontribe stuff, when there was already one to begin with? Especially now that there is someone who can remove posts that might have too much information? I just don't think it's right to go around deleting posts and pictures that other people have posted, for apparently no reason. Especially when they aren't harming, offending or endangering anyone at all. I'd think the original posters would be at least somewhat offended as well, but that's just my own speculation. -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Tue, March 11, 2008 - 12:00 PMI just keep coming back to the notion that it's unfair to the non-Moontribe inhabitants of this tribe, many of whom were here long before we squatted here.
The fact that posts can't be moved from one tribe to another I see as more of a shortcoming of the technology that powers Tribe, and the slow response to fixes here due to the low budget with which Tribe gurus have to operate, rather than a problem of poor policy.
if the right words are chosen as a disclaimer in the info about this tribe, I think we can constructively redirect all our community-related traffic over to the other tribe. There's enough activity there that we can populate it even further with quality posts and pictures in no time.
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Tue, March 11, 2008 - 5:53 PMThe non-moontribe inhabitants here have been dealing with those postings for how many years now? I don't think they're going to start getting offended, all of the sudden, especially as we had seemingly overtaken the tribe before the change of moderators, and even more so now. I can't even recall a post in recent times from someone who wasn't somehow into the whole moontribe thing anyhow. -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Tue, March 11, 2008 - 10:49 PMI guess I can see the logic as to why you'd want to delete the topics and pictures, however there is some good information in the posts. Namely, some questions about track names and such... I don't know, I just think it's silly to get rid years of discussion, just because Moontribe has moved to the other tribe...that doesn't seem like a good enough reason...or because people now want to talk about the moon?? They can talk about the moon all they want even with the threads intact. Seeing as how there has basically been no topics on the moon, you'd be deleting the entire tribe's contents. That's whack. -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Tue, March 11, 2008 - 11:40 PMRevisionism at its finest. Historical examples abound in the most repressive societies and regimes.
Brentt, I love ya, but you are treading on the thin ice of cognitave liberty here. Sure, moderation of inappropriate postings is a neccesary burden, but to unilaterally discount all 'off-topic' pics/threads as verbooten is a dangerous path. Regardless of the name or original intent of the 'tribe' group, in the TAZ of the internet, it became what it is. People are here, they talk about stuff, and these are their pictures. Every time you delete these I see a book in the fire.
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Sat, March 15, 2008 - 12:58 PMBrentt is doing exactly what a tribe moderator is supposed to do, and that is keep his tribe focused on a particular topic as he sees fit, and that is appropriate for the community. It's certainly unfortunate that our little group came along and monopolized this tribe inappropriately, but we have now taken the steps to correct it. Hooray!
Anyone who posted pics here can just as easily post pics in the other tribe. And let's not forget that Moontribe has a website of our very own that attendees can post gathering pics on too! There are tons of great pics out there, they don't have to be here. There is no book burning going on. That's just silly talk, and throwing a term like that around for reactionary purposes is, well, lame - it's not like we're Nazis trying to keep particular views suppressed. This isn't "The man keeping you down." No one is repressing your cognitive liberty. You can continue to have whatever views you want, express them how you want, we just ask that you please stop bothering the global moon-loving population with our community-related stuff, and have those conversations in a place where everyone cares about them instead of here. Brentt is giving our little group of squatters here lots of notice.
There are several thousand members of this tribe, and only a minority of them are FMG family. The folks who pop in every so often to remind us that the MOON is a global phenomenon with folks who adore her everywhere deserve to have this tribe a little less inundated by things that have nothing to do with them and only to do with our desert parties in So Cal. I would like to have a space to better connect with moon-lovers everywhere, and THAT is the focus of this tribe. I'm sure the global-moon lovers that joined this tribe feel the same way, and there are a LOT of them that have been disenchanted by our irrelevant party banter. There is a perfectly good tribe just a click away that is populated solely with the community for whom So-Cal FMG matters are relevant. They aren't relevant here, so why all the fuss? You'll already find that most of your community has already gotten with the program and are happily posting away about our community stuff in the other tribe. It's not that big a deal, so why drag your feet on it?
Brentt was nominated to head this tribe just for this purpose, and if you weren't paying attention to when all these changes were discussed, then I'm sorry to say it but, you missed the boat. The votes have been counted. Viva la revolucion!
I support you, Brentt. Lunaphiles of the world, unite!
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Sat, March 15, 2008 - 1:37 PMVery very nicely said Ultravioletlight.
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Sat, March 15, 2008 - 3:52 PMIf these people you're talking about are so offended, can you please point me in the direction of where they are.
I understand your concern for these thousands of folks on the tribe, but really...if they are so offended as you claim, why haven't they joined in on this discussion? It seems far fetched to say that thousands of people are disenchanted with the tribe's direction, given that no one except moontribe people chime in on this (and other) discussions. Tribe.net has become somewhat deserted, with all of the server problems and extreme slowness of the site, and MANY people are no longer active. I have no issue with the tribe's name being changed OR even the topics being steered in a moon direction. What I don't find necesarry is going through and deleting literally thousands of posts made over many years, just for the fact that "people are offended" when no one has stated such.
People are perfectly capable of seeing the tribe's name change to The Moon, and that it's no longer a moontribe haven for hippies. So why must we go back and delete thousands of people's posts and pictures?? Again, I'd love to hear from the offended bunch of folks in this tribe. I'm not discounting that they're in here, but it would be a bit foolhardy to just go and erase posts willy-nilly when the fact remains...there's never been an uproar in here to do such a thing. -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Sun, March 16, 2008 - 4:15 PMi never said "offended" - I said disenchanted. Please see the posts from Json, Chloe, and The Axis for three examples right here in this very thread of non-FMG folks who have voiced opinions. I for one know it can be intimidating to chime in someplace where you don't really know anyone and it feels like everyone else sorta knows each other. There are a few tribes that I am a part of where there are often fun discussions, but I'm not from the city that the majority of the posters are from, and it makes even me (gasp!) shy. I can relate to folks who would like to be more involved here but feel a little like an outsider now.
I am supportive of redirecting new posts as they come in if they aren't relevant for non-FMG folks, and removing most of the pictures that are just of party people. A good moderator knows what to keep and what to purge, and I trust Brentt. I'm not particularly worried about the old posts outside of the fact that they come up in google searches, but it would certainly help free up some of Tribe's server space and make all of our experiences here a little more expedient if we helped make some room.
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Sun, March 16, 2008 - 4:16 PMSorry, Chloe = Chlorophil
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Sun, March 16, 2008 - 4:28 PM"Please see the posts from Json, Chloe, and The Axis for three examples right here in this very thread of non-FMG folks who have voiced opinions."
If you take a look at all 3 of those fine folks profiles, 2 are in the other Moontribe tribe, and 1 has Moontribe listed as an interest. So, they are not part of the group of disenchanted you're talking about. But I'd love to hear from those people.
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Mon, March 17, 2008 - 10:16 AMThis is true. I am indeed an FMG veteran. My profile pic is from an FMG a few year back. :)
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Mon, March 17, 2008 - 10:32 PMFrankly, it would be a miracle if all of a sudden a whole bunch of non-moontribe folk from the rest of the country who stopped posting here because they felt like outsiders burst back on the scene just because you'd like to hear from them. The point is to re-create the space for such connections to happen. It's not likely to happen while we're still monopolizing the space with FMG banter.
(I glanced at those three profiles before my last post and simply noticed that they were not located in So Cal, and seemed to voice support for a more all inclusive intention for this tribe. I seem to remember one being from Philadelphia or something.)
FYI - I delete old posts all the time in my tribes, and no-one notices or cares. The posts I delete are often adverts for events that have long passed or other such dated stuff. It actually makes searching through the tribe a lot easier.
I'm still not understanding what the resistance is all about? We don't need two tribes with the same focus, and the other tribe is populated with the FMG community. Why not just let this one be what it was intended to be, and let Brentt do what we voted him in to do (without so much grief)? -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Mon, March 17, 2008 - 10:48 PMyou are amazing ultraviolet.~!
thank you for being such a patient triber.
your compassion is perfect Light in the shadows of complication.
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Tue, March 18, 2008 - 10:41 AMThis has ceased to be fun, I'm leaving this tribe, have fun with deleting everything that's been built up over the years, too-da-loo.
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Mon, March 10, 2008 - 9:55 PMNo, I thought that too. But I don't think its possible except downloading each one and then uploading it. And its taking long enough just to delete them.
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Fri, March 7, 2008 - 8:48 AMi don't know if deleting the topics would be the wisest choice; there's some good information in them. -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Sun, March 9, 2008 - 9:50 PMWow. I haven't been on in a while.
Brentt the new moderator? Rock out witcher' cock out!!!
I'm glad you changed the name of the tribe. -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Mon, March 10, 2008 - 9:09 PMif this tribe is about the moon then LA is just a spot!! it should be worldwide!! -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Tue, March 11, 2008 - 12:42 AMI love the smiley crescent shape its making right now..... -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Tue, March 18, 2008 - 10:59 AMI also don't see much point in deleting old threads.
As long as current threads are kept on topic (moon not moontribe) then all old threads will be buried anyway.
Information deleted is lost forever.
We can't pretend that this tribe was not affected by the moontribe 'takeover'.
Take a look at the 50 page history of threads. If you go all the way to the beginning of this tribe (around 2004 or something) it has moontribe postings from the beginning.
So whatever the original purpose of this tribe was, it never materialized as that.
It can be changed now of course, but there is no sense in pretending moontribe was never here.
If you delete all old moontribe postings, you are basically deleting the entire tribe history (all 50 pages and 4 years of it).
Why not just start a new tribe about the moon from scratch. It will save much deleting work.
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Tue, March 18, 2008 - 11:11 AMOK, maybe we don't need to delete threads, because the first few threads listed are not FMG related now (and its way to much of a hassle anyway because you have to delete one at a time and wait for the page to reload).
For now I'll just delete any new FMG related posts and send PMs to the poster explaining that this isn't the FMG tribe and direct them to the Moontribe Collective tribe. But the FMG pictures got to go still.
As for the reasons for doing this: what Violet and Maggie said.
So is everyone OK with that?
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Tue, March 18, 2008 - 9:47 PMaye! capitan! onward! moonward! heee
now we can get back to having fun... phew! Anyone see that big fat moon? She's almost ripe for the picking! -
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Sun, May 4, 2008 - 2:33 PM
Moon in Sextans We have Moon in Sextans this month. The position is a masonic one, also good for builders, architects and yacht owners. The attitude is serene, constructive and realistic, with a spiritual overtone. Sextans is just below Leo, you can find it on google.com/sky Other planets enter Sextans, e.g. Keanu Reeves has Mercury in Sextans, a real weirdo! Also: a foull moon can happen in sextans, much as in Ophiuchus or Orion.
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Re: The Moon (this tribe's topic)
Thu, May 29, 2008 - 4:14 AMMove with Moon in Auriga, settle in with Moon in Sextans. Avoid NYC area with Moon in Orion.
The Moon is changing constellations so quickly that we introduced the ONE MINUTE ephemeris.
You never know when it enters Auriga and pouff!! Auriga is above Orion at the Sargate.
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